Thursday, March 24, 2011

"The insurgents see the dream of cities held by Gaddafi to rise"

In a chat on cnn. fr, Remy Ourdan, Special Envoy of the World in Libya, said "the enthusiasm of the rebels vis-à-vis Western intervention, which has clearly saved Benghazi. Some shabab who face the Libyan army blame these soldiers do not show enough enthusiasm for the revolution, and some even suspect them of playing double game regards the level of coordination between rebel forces and the international coalition, I ignored.

Foreign advisers were seen in Benghazi, but if there is coordination, it is currently very quiet. There are occasional skirmishes every night in Benghazi, but it is very difficult to distinguish between potential political clashes and just settlement of accounts. The rebels are very afraid of a "fifth column" and some people have actually had an ambiguous behavior when army tanks Gaddafi arrived in the vicinity of Benghazi on Saturday.

But we can not properly speak of war in Benghazi, the city is still controlled by rebels. No. The rebels are not verifiable circulation figures, and there is obviously quite a few members who have joined the rebels on the forehead. Are there other members who have defected to simply go home, I know.

As I'm at the front with the rebels, I can not speak specifically of the army of Gaddafi. On the few dead or prisoners that we have seen, there was a mixture of black African mercenaries, of unknown nationality, and Libyan soldiers. Training in recruitment centers in Benghazi is extremely brief, as the handling of the Kalashnikov.

But more importantly, most rebel fighters go to the front without having received any prior training. These are young men who came down peacefully protest a month ago and who now find themselves with machine guns or rocket launchers, but without any military experience. As the supply of arms, the rebel leaders claim that the weapons come via Egypt.

It seems very likely, but again, on the front, I never found that the rebels were armed brand new or an effective organization. There are thousands, mostly armed with rifles, but also sometimes with knives, or even unarmed, waiting for eventual death of a companion to retrieve his Kalashnikov and fight on in his place.

There is no humanitarian crisis itself. There are food, electricity. People who fled Benghazi few days ago have mostly sought refuge with relatives on the road to Egypt, and hospitals, even if they have needs, rather very able to adequately treat the war wounded. No, the rebels are enthusiastic vis-à-vis the Western intervention, which has clearly saved Benghazi, which could have fallen a few hours later, Saturday or Sunday.

The rebels insist simply on the fact that this intervention must remain air, and they do not want to arrival of Western troops in Libya. Communications are very complicated. Tripoli has cut almost all mobile phones. The rebels in the eastern region have much difficulty communicating with the pockets of insurgents located further west.

Fragmentary information reach Benghazi but are often unverifiable. Young shabab clearly show less enthusiasm for prime time two weeks ago after having lived for ten days and meltdown have been saved in extremis by Western intervention. That said, yes, there are still young volunteers who are currently on the outskirts of Ajdabiya, and dream to continue the fight to Sirte, then to Tripoli.

The transitional government exists for the rebels. Elections and the freedom they dream of, so they took to the streets a month ago. Now, for them, the question is how to continue the fight. They would dream of seeing the cities controlled by Gaddafi to rise again spontaneously. But they say that if this is not possible, they remain ready for the military option, they say, liberate the country.

Quite honestly, we do not feel the population phenomenal enthusiasm vis-à-vis the National Transition Council. However, we feel a strong support for all those opposed to Colonel Gaddafi, and most of the combatants as civilians say the choice of their leaders will take place later, when peace returned.

Libya is probably a politically devastated by four decades of rule by Qaddafi, but also a rich country, with elites, some of whom trained abroad, and there is no reason to think of other than the Libyan Gaddafi clan could not lead this state. What has changed, first, that the insurgency can continue, because without Western intervention, there is every reason to believe that Benghazi was now fallen.

The question now is one of continued struggle. As the insurgents say is revolution or war. They prefer the revolution, city by city. But they have no other option, they will continue the war. No. It is impossible to check by the reality of these arms shipments, as no new weapon is visible on the front lines.

The regime has cut off Internet communication, but all Libyans have instead access to satellite television channels. They are very knowledgeable. Their favorite station is obviously Al Jazeera, which has strongly supported the insurgent movement. Nathnet: Are there any foreign military advisers in Benghazi? According to our information, there a.

But I did not personally encountered, and therefore can not confirm the number or what their tasks. The rebels, we do not want foreign intervention earth, because you think it might give the impression of a desire to occupation, and thus strengthen support for Gaddafi. First, journalists are quite numerous in eastern Libya.

In my case, I mostly spent time on the front lines, where it is sometimes tricky course to accompany into combat veterans who are almost always lower than militarily. But what is the host of the Libyans, it is extraordinary. Insurgents have repeatedly that the presence of foreign media gives them a window on the world, after forty years of dictatorship.

All interviewees expressed a score against Libya. Only Gaddafi who brandish this spectrum. Here in the East, we continue to believe that it is a struggle of the Libyan people as a whole against a dictator, and certainly not a battle of East against West. I can not speak for the regions of Libya, where I'm not.

But here in the East, he clearly has no popular support. The insurgents are very grateful to the nations participating in the intervention, and in every popular event, there are now many French flags in the middle of the Libyan flag. From the rebel side, there is criticism rather reluctant countries towards intervention, arguing that such criticism often come from African or Arab regimes themselves dictatorial or authoritarian.

Yes, the insurgents are demanding weapons. But again, they still favor the hypothesis of a popular uprising city by city. They continue to say that the military option is for them that the second option. It seems obvious that Qaddafi's military who have passed the rebel side play a game for the least ambiguous.

They support very few fighters on the front. I even heard lie about the military situation for political leaders in the rebellion. To say they are spies Gaddafi is impossible to carry a charge. We can simply see that the insurgents, there is a strong suspicion vis-à-vis the military. I think for now the rebels do not pose a budgetary issue.

They are in a brand new revolution, they have faith. But it seems clear that they would move farther west, they would also benefit from the huge revenues Libyan oil. Moderated chat by Emmanuelle Chevallereau

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