Javier Solana, the man who embodied the European Union diplomacy until just over a year, considers the revolutions of Tunisia and Egypt to bring out "a very profound change in the societies of the world that was left behind in the globalization process. " The changes that have occurred are "irreversible", he thinks and the way to undertake Egypt will mark the path the rest of the region.
Solana, converted now a professor at ESADE, is optimistic. Those who have risen up against the Mubarak regime radical Islamists are not dangerous, but young people who want to "demand dignity and respect." In Israel, he adds, no longer will the excuse of being the only democracy in the region must adapt to ensure their safety otherwise.
Question. What are the consequences of what happened? Response. The first is that this is irreversible. Nothing will be the same. Not only in Egypt or Tunisia, but throughout the region, even in countries that today seem oblivious to the events, something is happening. Three things are clear.
The first is that the scheme was imposed only had two options, radicalization of Islam or repression, has collapsed. Here are some young people who say we want to be free without giving up to be Muslims, not to use religion as political ideology, want to be like other citizens of the world and live with dignity and respect, the two words that have been used more in the square Tahrir.
The second is that Egypt take the model out of this situation will make what happens in other countries. The third is that Egypt is key to the evolution of the Middle East conflict and determine the positive elements of the peace process. P. What do you think of the discrete part of the Muslim Brotherhood? Could hijack the revolution as happened with the clerics in Iran? R.
It is still early, but would require a thorough analysis of what is meant by the Muslim Brotherhood. The most evil-minded claim to have gone to the rear to await the time they meet. Others think that there is a real evolution in his thinking. In any case no longer claim to establish a social model.
But the situation in Egypt has nothing to do with Iran in 1979, more people believe that Cairo has much in common with those who took to the streets in Tehran after the last election. P. What effect will this have on Iran? R. Iran has not addressed the results of recent elections. There's something underneath that remains unresolved and therefore becomes harder the surface.
P. How will it affect Israel? R. Israel has to take lessons. It's been a very serious error loss in 2009 for having launched the peace process, leveraging the arrival of a new U.S. president, Barack Obama, and his speech in Cairo, who was also in the atmosphere of Tahrir Square . Israel must realize that they must adapt to changes in the citizenship of their neighbors.
Security is very important, but the means to get it may change. Some sectors of Israel still prefer the repression by the military because it guarantees predictability. But security can also be obtained for free from cohabitation agreement, which requires everyone's efforts. What is clear is that there will be no command and control regime in Egypt.
P. What is needed for transition in Egypt? R. The military, which will continue to safeguard the process, have it easy. The Egyptian Constitution is fine, the problem is the amendment. Which defines who can be standing for election is 20 pages ... Lifting the state of emergency will not take much effort to form a negotiating table that aims to quickly clean the Constitution to perceive the change.
P. What about the role of Europe? R. I'm frustrated with our response. These days you could not do much more, but should have talked more and better together. It has been difficult at all sites. Obama has made extraordinary balances within its own government, but he has set the line and, without doubt, has scored well.
Has had a clear position, a sound itself. "You right, we support you," he said. Spain has a great responsibility, should act as a catalyst within the EU.
Solana, converted now a professor at ESADE, is optimistic. Those who have risen up against the Mubarak regime radical Islamists are not dangerous, but young people who want to "demand dignity and respect." In Israel, he adds, no longer will the excuse of being the only democracy in the region must adapt to ensure their safety otherwise.
Question. What are the consequences of what happened? Response. The first is that this is irreversible. Nothing will be the same. Not only in Egypt or Tunisia, but throughout the region, even in countries that today seem oblivious to the events, something is happening. Three things are clear.
The first is that the scheme was imposed only had two options, radicalization of Islam or repression, has collapsed. Here are some young people who say we want to be free without giving up to be Muslims, not to use religion as political ideology, want to be like other citizens of the world and live with dignity and respect, the two words that have been used more in the square Tahrir.
The second is that Egypt take the model out of this situation will make what happens in other countries. The third is that Egypt is key to the evolution of the Middle East conflict and determine the positive elements of the peace process. P. What do you think of the discrete part of the Muslim Brotherhood? Could hijack the revolution as happened with the clerics in Iran? R.
It is still early, but would require a thorough analysis of what is meant by the Muslim Brotherhood. The most evil-minded claim to have gone to the rear to await the time they meet. Others think that there is a real evolution in his thinking. In any case no longer claim to establish a social model.
But the situation in Egypt has nothing to do with Iran in 1979, more people believe that Cairo has much in common with those who took to the streets in Tehran after the last election. P. What effect will this have on Iran? R. Iran has not addressed the results of recent elections. There's something underneath that remains unresolved and therefore becomes harder the surface.
P. How will it affect Israel? R. Israel has to take lessons. It's been a very serious error loss in 2009 for having launched the peace process, leveraging the arrival of a new U.S. president, Barack Obama, and his speech in Cairo, who was also in the atmosphere of Tahrir Square . Israel must realize that they must adapt to changes in the citizenship of their neighbors.
Security is very important, but the means to get it may change. Some sectors of Israel still prefer the repression by the military because it guarantees predictability. But security can also be obtained for free from cohabitation agreement, which requires everyone's efforts. What is clear is that there will be no command and control regime in Egypt.
P. What is needed for transition in Egypt? R. The military, which will continue to safeguard the process, have it easy. The Egyptian Constitution is fine, the problem is the amendment. Which defines who can be standing for election is 20 pages ... Lifting the state of emergency will not take much effort to form a negotiating table that aims to quickly clean the Constitution to perceive the change.
P. What about the role of Europe? R. I'm frustrated with our response. These days you could not do much more, but should have talked more and better together. It has been difficult at all sites. Obama has made extraordinary balances within its own government, but he has set the line and, without doubt, has scored well.
Has had a clear position, a sound itself. "You right, we support you," he said. Spain has a great responsibility, should act as a catalyst within the EU.
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